Oh hey look, new throttle body for my car.

"YSI-what can brown do for you" (ysi-what-can-brown-do-for-you) 10/27/2013 at 23:18 • Filed to: None

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Oh its two millimeter wider. So it must be 500 bucks right. WRONG! This little baby is 1500 dollars.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:21

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YSI-what can brown do for you > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/27/2013 at 23:22

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Wow thats tiny! Is there just one, or are there more?

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:30

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this one is a whole 3 millimeters bigger and you save $300

TodaRacing

desertdog5051 > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:32

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Does it come with a re-mapping for the fuel distribution?

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:32

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There's two. The 140HP engines get 4.

Joseph Shaul > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/27/2013 at 23:34

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Vas is das?

Joseph Shaul > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:35

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Can you tap a manometer into the intake manifold? The difference in pressure drop may be insignificant unless you're doing a whole lot of other shit to the engine.

6cyl > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:36

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...and it probably cause almost no gains with out a significant amount of other mods to the motor.... or if it does it will be at the sacrifice of low end (cruising) throttle precision.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:38

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Fun fact: The automatic version of my car had a slightly larger bore to make up for the reduced responsiveness from the transmission. It's one of the cheapest mods you can do on a Neon, you just need to find an automatic one in the junkyard. The wider throttle body will bolt right onto an MTX car and give you an extra 5 or so horsepower.

offroadkarter > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:38

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haw haw haw

here is my SBTB + plenum that I picked up for 400 with 6000 miles on it. I think brand new the SBTB alone is 400

what size is the stock TB on a toyobaru? The one in the pic looks pretty tiny

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > Joseph Shaul 10/27/2013 at 23:38

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A carburetor, welcome to oppo.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > offroadkarter 10/27/2013 at 23:43

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65mm

offroadkarter > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/27/2013 at 23:50

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so this company is selling a 67mm for 1500 dollars? You can buy a crown victoria for that price...

Talk about not worth it at all

YSI-what can brown do for you > desertdog5051 10/27/2013 at 23:52

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Nope, you have to buy that separately. So add another 6 to 800 on top of that.

YSI-what can brown do for you > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/27/2013 at 23:53

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Interesting, but 1200 dollars is still a bit steep. I wonder how much ITBs would be, I imagine too expensive.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/27/2013 at 23:54

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Man, a whole 140hp! Can you switch out the carbs on the higher model onto the older one?

YSI-what can brown do for you > offroadkarter 10/27/2013 at 23:56

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No kidding, the only thing I can recommend is that Cusco does make some good parts. Hopefully other things should be around in the future. Plus I like the shinyness of your supercharger/TB. It looks awesome.

YSI-what can brown do for you > 6cyl 10/27/2013 at 23:57

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Plus you need to retune it to actually take advantage of the mod, otherwise it won't do much.

YSI-what can brown do for you > If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent 10/27/2013 at 23:57

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I think Toyota kind of screwed over the auto version of this car. The gearing makes it slower, it is heavier, and everything is virtually

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:58

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Same carbs, different heads and such. Mine's a '62-'63 80hp

offroadkarter > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/27/2013 at 23:59

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TB's on a N/A car are virtually pointless, most times they are not a bottleneck. You'll get snappier throttle response but thats about it. Since you have drive by wire, I'm not sure if that would even happen. I guess if the ratio inside the TB is a quicker ratio over stock, the electric motor would turn it faster, so it would give the same effect, but I've never owned a drive by wire car let alone swapped a TB on one.

YSI-what can brown do for you > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 00:07

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This is pretty much true. Any intake mod will do very little. All I am going to do is get a 50 dollar drop in filter, and maybe add a bigger snorkle. . . because why not(can't do harm can it)? Both are still cheaper than buying a full intake. I honestly don't know how throttle by wire would work other than what you said in your post.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 00:08

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That sucks, I guess there is only one other option for more power. . . LS swap. Also what car is it?

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/28/2013 at 00:09

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'61 Corvair. 2400lbs

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/28/2013 at 00:11

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YSI-what can brown do for you > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 00:12

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I should have guessed, I saw the boxer and went "beetle" then I realized that the Beetle never made more than 40 hp. Btw, nice car. I love these things, and how unsafe are they?

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/28/2013 at 00:13

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Safer than most of their age.

Blaquer > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 00:22

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is that the blower and intake for a terminator cobra? /drool

Joseph Shaul > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 00:24

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Funny. What does it fit to?

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > Joseph Shaul 10/28/2013 at 00:27

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Corvair.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > YSI-what can brown do for you 10/28/2013 at 00:28

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I had a quick look, I couldn't find any of the FA20 but there is this EJ20 one for comparison:

Tomei Quad Throttle Body ... $4700~

offroadkarter > Blaquer 10/28/2013 at 00:33

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it was for a terminator, now its on my marauder

the blower only had 1000 miles on it, and the SBTB/plenum 6000. I got both of them for really good deals.

YSI-what can brown do for you > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 00:33

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That sounds fracking good! 9100 rpm and still with pushrods! Amazing!

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 00:34

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eh I'm sure there's plenty of people out there with boosted BRZ/86's who'd think this is reasonable. especially in the Drifting scene.

offroadkarter > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/28/2013 at 00:36

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When you throw boost at it, its a little different, but I know the OP's car is stock or close to stock. On a N/A car its totally pointless.

Even still, I'm sure on a low boost kit that TB isn't a major restriction. 1500 for a throttle body is a LOT. My supercharger didn't even cost me that much!

Blaquer > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 00:39

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Nice. now that the coyote motor is out, the top ends of terminators are a lot more affordable. And that makes it a Mauler, now, right?

Marquis - 4.6 2V
Marauder - 4.6 4V
Mauler - S/C 4.6 4V

offroadkarter > Blaquer 10/28/2013 at 00:41

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I have never heard anyone call it a Mauler lol

Prices on terminator eaton stuff has actually gone up a lot. They only made those cars for 2 years, and now that eaton swaps are popular with marauders, mach 1's, and N/A cobras, let alone 4v GT swap cars, and even people using the M112's on tork tech 2v cars, its getting harder to find parts and the prices on whats left keeps going up. I got my blower for 440 shipped, and now 400 on average will get you a blower with 30-50k miles on it. Ported blowers are like 800 bucks usually.

Blaquer > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 00:43

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lol. That might be a South Louisiana thing then.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 01:03

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We can only hope for OP's sake that the newest WRX also uses the FA20, at the moment it's just the Toyobaru twins, Forester and JDM only Legacy GT that use them. Cheapest I've seen a S/C kit for the BRZ/86 is $3300 including brackets and gaskets etc.

offroadkarter > beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard 10/28/2013 at 01:04

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thats not a bad price, although I was never big on S/C 4 bangers, seems like it doesn't do to much.

beardsbynelly - Rikerbeard > offroadkarter 10/28/2013 at 01:22

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they don't need a whole lot extra power, I think their sweet spot would be about 50% extra, any more than that and you wouldn't be able to use any of the extra power on the street. Most S/C kits seem capable of that on stock internals.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 09:36

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Looks like you need 6 of them.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 10/28/2013 at 10:03

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Chevy was working on this when the edict to abandon the Corvair to work on the Camaro was sent down:

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 10:25

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Boooo they had a chance to build a 911/cayman fighter. A chance to make their brand more than just american muscle by brute force in a straight line.

Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. > ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR 10/28/2013 at 10:30

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The Camaro was cheaper to make, had a V8, and the UAW was happy because it required more people to make.

ZeroOrDie - Powered By MZR > Demon-Xanth knows how to operate a street. 10/28/2013 at 10:37

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Oh I am sure. Just a what if moment.

Like if Ford didn't kill the SVO program and built a turbo focus a few(30) years earlier(in the US). They would own the hot hatch department. And they could use the DOHC n/a tech to build a miata fighter before miatas even took over.

Which makes me want to drop a duratec 2.3 in a foxbody. Same philosophy as the guy who dropped the ford indy motor in the martini fastback mustang. Except less everything haha.